On 21 December 2015, while Kian Ganz was publicly
targeting me on the Legally India website through his own post, comments and
through anonymous comments that he wrote/ published, he sent me the following highly objectionable emails while I was responding online.
My response to Kian Ganz on email is also reproduced below.
For the contemporaneous public exchange online on Legally India see http://seemasapra.blogspot.in/2015/12/revealing-exchange-with-seema-sapra.html or http://propagandaoutfitlegallyindia.blogspot.in/2016/04/revealing-exchange-with-seema-sapra_7.html
My response to Kian Ganz on email is also reproduced below.
For the contemporaneous public exchange online on Legally India see http://seemasapra.blogspot.in/2015/12/revealing-exchange-with-seema-sapra.html or http://propagandaoutfitlegallyindia.blogspot.in/2016/04/revealing-exchange-with-seema-sapra_7.html
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
KIAN GANZ (Legally India) <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM
Subject:
Unsolicited advice
To:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Hi
Seema, sorry for the delay, I've been out all weekend at a wedding.
I
spoke to someone whose wife was in a very similar situation to you and have
done a lot of research online and spoken to some friends in the medical
profession for the past few months.
At
the outset, I fear that whatever I say you will take as evidence of me being
an agent of GE or otherwise being out to act against your interests.
However,
I would request that you please evaluate the evidence of the following on its
own merits anyway and hear me out at least.
I
believe that you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia or some variant
thereof, perhaps triggered by the way GE treated you at the workplace after
you uncovered irregularities there or other stress. From what you've told me,
they may have failed in their duty of care to you as an employer.
I
and many others, purely from the evidence of the content of your blog posts
and emails, are certain that you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia,
which is a condition that is very hard but not impossible to deal with.
I'm
sure you're aware of this and I'm not the first to tell you this, but
symptoms are very commonly a fear of getting followed, poisoned by someone,
or manipulated by drugs.
As
such many of the things you think GE has done to you are textbook paranoid
schizophrenic disorder, which are literally mentioned on nearly every website
with paranoid schizophrenic symptoms, such as:
http://www.helpguide.org/articles/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-signs-types-and-causes.htm
Please
do Google it, although I'm sure you've done so before.
There's
obviously a range and spectrum, but notably, a feeling of being poisoned and
an overwhelming conspiracy by a powerful corporate or government entity are
very common.
For
instance, the following simply don't make any rational, logical or
common-sense, even to me who doesn't trust any large corporates:
1.
Poison being introduced into your house, hotels and everywhere you go by GE
(despite you having told me when we met that those poisonous naphtalene moth
balls, lack of open windows, etc could have also been to blame for triggering
difficult breathing, plus Delhi is a polluted city and you're not living a
healthy lifestyle right now, which can also contribute).
2.
Dogs barking at night in order to unsettle you (despite dogs barking in many
colonies at night all over Delhi - stray dogs are a massive problem. Why
would someone cause some dogs to bark outside your window to unsettle the
entire neighbourhood?).
3.
A doctor deliberately dislocating your ankle because they were paid by GE to
do so. Again, this seems highly unlikely that a medical professional would
resort to a method so crude.
4.
The attachment that you suspected was a forged medical certificate (which was
certainly spam and/or a virus rather than a targeted attack by any entity
who'd have very little to gain by forging some medical certificate and
emailing it to you, particularly in a file other than PDF).
There
are many other examples, and I'd be happy to address any of them you have and
provide you a compelling narrative that is much more likely on a balance of
probabilities or whichever legal test you'd like to apply to it.
Like
I said, this is separate from any of the allegations against GE, which may
very well be true in part.
I
also believe that when you're fighting a large corporate such as GE in the
courts, they'll employ influential lawyers and will no doubt use the legal
system against you to discredit you and get your cases thrown out, which can
often make it feel like the entire system is stacked against you.
Unfortunately,
that's also a litigation strategy that nearly any corporate would follow, but
that should be treated very separately and differently from the poisoning
allegations, rather than conflating the two.
What
harm can it do for you to find an independent psychologist independently in
Delhi who has some experience with paranoid schizophrenia preferably, who can
give you some professional advice.
At
worst, they may be able to help you deal with a difficult situation you're
facing in terms of not having income, job and home right now.
At
best, they could help you put some of the things that are distracting you
into proper perspective, and you can actually pursue your fight against GE,
etc, properly.
Anyway,
please let me know if I can help in any way.
I
believe that tackling paranoid schizophrenia is really tough, particularly
without family support, but it's actually possible to get it under control
and to lead a much happier life, which you certainly have the potential to
do.
Best
wishes,
Kian
--
--
Kian
Ganz
Publishing
Editor
Legally
India - News for Lawyers
http://www.LegallyIndia.com
kian.ganz@LegallyIndia.com
Tel
(India): +91 900 405 6651
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/legallyindia
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
KIAN GANZ (Legally India) <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:43 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Hi
Seema,
It
doesn't have anything to do with sane or insane, it's a simple matter of
brain chemistry which can be off-kilter and can cause you to believe some
things that are not completely true, which can happen to anyone.
GE
may very well have been / be corrupt but this poisoning argument of yours
only weakens your case in any court of law or to any reasonable person.
Rationally
I don't think there is any reasonable counter-argument you can make re all of
the 4 points below, though I'm not discounting your belief in their truth or
the way you feel.
For
instance, enough quantity of nitrous oxide to poison an entire apartment
would require a huge cylinder of the stuff that you can't just hide in a tiny
hole in the wall, a random hotel room you check into, or whatever else you've
discovered. I know from personal experience that small amounts of nitrous do
nothing but induce some mild euphoria and physical numbness.
Pretend
you are a lawyer dealing with your own case as your client, and look at the
facts available impartially, if possible. Would you advise your client to
persist with the poisoning line of argument when there are much stronger ones
to follow?
Go
to a completely independent doctor who no one else knows and that GE could
not possibly in any possible way know about you visiting and get them to test
you for poisoning or whatever, rather than trying to get the court to order
AIIMS to do the same. After all you've been through, would you really trust a
court-appointed doctor more than any random doctor you find yourself?
Best
Kian
--
Kian
Ganz
Publishing
Editor
Legally
India - News for Lawyers
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
KIAN GANZ (Legally India) <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
I'm
not sure of the details, but I assume because your poisoning argument is
really hard for any reasonable person to believe.
Even
if you hadn't called the judges corrupt, you would have lost their attention
when going into the arguments dogs barking, consistent poisoning for several
years, etc...
If
you don't trust anyone, why do you have such major faith that the MCI would
do a good job of this?
Let's
face it, most government institutions in India are potentially corrupt and
can be subverted - if you haven't yet, this is a harrowing but great article
about the Vyapam scam recently:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/the-mystery-of-indias-deadly-exam-scam
Get
yourself a full medical check-up independently, get independent medical
reports etc - going through the court will take ages, and after the latest
Delhi HC judgments in your cases, I don't think they'll be sympathetic or
helpful.
--
Kian
Ganz
Publishing
Editor
Legally
India - News for Lawyers
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
KIAN GANZ (Legally India) <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:42 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Hi
Seema,
No,
not really an appropriate comment. I'll lock down future comments on that
article in a bit, since it's not really going anywhere and you've had your
say plenty, as have others, and it's not really going anywhere.
Anyway,
regarding my below emails, I've said what I have to say, please let me know
if you ever change your mind on any of the below and I'd be happy to assist
as far as able.
On
a practical note though, I hope you manage to move on with your life soon beyond
GE and all this. I honestly don't see even a sliver of a prospect of success
with your current and previous litigation strategy in the current system and
with all the facts available.
For
your own well-being, you really need to get your life together, stop living
in a car, get a flat and start working somewhere to get a semblance of a
normal life back.
Being
a whistleblower is not a vocation by itself and if you want to fight
corruption, you can't do it effectively without meeting those basic needs.
Take
care
Kian
--
Kian
Ganz
Publishing
Editor
Legally
India - News for Lawyers
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:24 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Kian,
Your email is full of completely incorrect assumptions about me and my
situation.
I
am completely mentally sane and will fight my battle with GE in the Courts.
I
will use the court process to establish that I am being poisoned.
So
don't worry about me. I am under no unmanageable stress and am confident of
my abilities to fight my being targeted legally.
Best,
Seema
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:38 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>,
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@gmail.com>
Kian,
Remember
I had several applications in my writ petition seeking that the Medical
Council of India be brought in to look at my complaints of past poisoning and
how my complaints of poisoning had been handled by doctors.
I
wanted those applications to be heard and to the MCI to be asked to look at
my complaints including the complaint of deliberate ankle dislocation which
is established by xrays, audio records and doctor reports.
None
of those applications were taken up in my writ. Why?
Seema
Sapra
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:52 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>,
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@gmail.com>
Hey
Kian,
As
I said I intend to petition the SC to direct that I be examined for
poisoning. And that the MCI look at my past med records and my complaints
that some docs tried to cover up my complaints of poisoning.
I
assure you my brain chemistry is fine.
I
am not arguing my case here and will make sure all facts are before the SC.
Can
I please request you to not pursue this line of argument with me further.
Believe me I know what I am doing and saying and it is all with utmost
responsibility and backed with evidence.
You
are picking up selected versions of GE's distorted propaganda against me.
There
is a lot of evidence that I have against GE for targeting.
Seema
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:55 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Kian,
I
am confident of my abilities as a lawyer to place and argue my case before
the SC in a manner which will leave no option but for the truth to be
established.
I
am confident I will succeed.
Seema
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:49 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>,
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@gmail.com>
kian,
can one use the phrase" the fuckers at GE who did this to me" on
LI?
just
asking only half seriously :)
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Kian
that was an unserious question.
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Forwarded message ----------
From:
Seema Sapra <seema.sapra@googlemail.com>
Date:
Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:54 PM
Subject:
Re: Unsolicited advice
To:
"KIAN GANZ (Legally India)" <kian.ganz@legallyindia.com>
Kian,
no don't lock down the thread. The truth is really getting exposed here.
The
trolls and their abuses don't bother me. Its obvious to everyone what their
agenda is.
I
am fighting to survive this. I will not go down as a GE victim here.
As
I said the truth, facts and evidence is on my side.
Seema
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